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		<title>By: Debs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty
How do you know it is a fake ?
Bitch&#039;s from different clubs can have same registered name,and if it is your Pedigree how did the breeder in cheshire get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty<br />
How do you know it is a fake ?<br />
Bitch&#8217;s from different clubs can have same registered name,and if it is your Pedigree how did the breeder in cheshire get it?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dog Training Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dog Training Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just been given a &#039;pedigree&#039; certificate issued by the DLRC for a friends cocker. I was amazed to read that a cocker bitch I own is the mother! She isnt. She is neutered. She is KC registered and a breeder in Cheshire has registered a dog with the same name ans same ancestry with the DLRC. The parents, grandparents, gt grandparents all bear the same name as my bitch. IT IS A FAKE, the breeder has used the DLRC to create a ficticious pedigree for a cocker spaniel. Why, I ask, couldnt the DLRC and KC talk to each other to prevent such scams, a simple Google check by DLRC would have revealed the fraud? I am left wondering how complicit the DLRC are in this subterfuge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just been given a &#8216;pedigree&#8217; certificate issued by the DLRC for a friends cocker. I was amazed to read that a cocker bitch I own is the mother! She isnt. She is neutered. She is KC registered and a breeder in Cheshire has registered a dog with the same name ans same ancestry with the DLRC. The parents, grandparents, gt grandparents all bear the same name as my bitch. IT IS A FAKE, the breeder has used the DLRC to create a ficticious pedigree for a cocker spaniel. Why, I ask, couldnt the DLRC and KC talk to each other to prevent such scams, a simple Google check by DLRC would have revealed the fraud? I am left wondering how complicit the DLRC are in this subterfuge?</p>
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		<title>By: iDECT</title>
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		<dc:creator>iDECT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a KC breeder for many many years. Please do take my word for it that when purchasing a KC breed you are NOT receiving a superior animal of that breed in ANY sense of the word!.
I could tell you endless stories about KC breeders &amp; their underhanded escapades, plus the lack of moral &amp; ethical care to their animals, but to be quite frank with you all the memories aren&#039;t so pleasant that i wish to recall.
I can tell you this much though, there is, &amp; has always been a tow-the-line or you&#039;re shunned attitude amongst themselves as breeders. I&#039;m 79years old now &amp; bred pedigree&#039;s for almost forty years as a KC member, &amp; i experienced &amp; witnessed throughout those years snobbish hypocrisy, fraudulant use of paperwork &amp; animals, the outing of members who&#039;d refuse to comply to the pressure of committing unethical practices from other breeders, crimes of cruelty against animals on an unimaginable scale, (&amp; i say crimes because they really were/are crimes) inter-breeding on a level that really was quite obvious to any person with even one braincell as being a of huge mistake &amp; detriment to the dogs abilities, not only to perform, yet also to function as any dog should be able too.
The Breeder of today hasn&#039;t got better at all, if anything they&#039;ve only got better at hiding they&#039;re misdeeds from the world outside of the KC. All the practices that were occurring 10, 20, 30, &amp; 40years ago are definitely still happening as i type, &amp; will still be doing so in the decades to come.
My advice to anyone looking for a pedigree dog with all the attributes, grace, nobility &amp; good long health that a pedigree dog should rightfully have - would be to stay well away from long established clubs such as this one is.
If your able to find pedigree animals from family home breeders, then that&#039;s where you should be buying from. In my mind at least 80% of KC breeders are only fatcat type money making &quot;charlatans&quot;, who know absolutely squat about sustaining any breeds intricate characteristics.
I&#039;d personally say that when weighing up the two sides, clubs like Dogs Lovers are most likely allowing a much healthier, &amp; less stressed, stronger, happier pedigree to be produced from loving family calm homes.
Remember, dogs have been domesticated for over four thousand years, &amp; our homes have been their natural environment for a very long time!. It&#039;s where they belong now &amp; flourish best. Not at puppy farms, Crates, kennels, breeding pens &amp; boxes.
Think about it.......... !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a KC breeder for many many years. Please do take my word for it that when purchasing a KC breed you are NOT receiving a superior animal of that breed in ANY sense of the word!.<br />
I could tell you endless stories about KC breeders &amp; their underhanded escapades, plus the lack of moral &amp; ethical care to their animals, but to be quite frank with you all the memories aren&#8217;t so pleasant that i wish to recall.<br />
I can tell you this much though, there is, &amp; has always been a tow-the-line or you&#8217;re shunned attitude amongst themselves as breeders. I&#8217;m 79years old now &amp; bred pedigree&#8217;s for almost forty years as a KC member, &amp; i experienced &amp; witnessed throughout those years snobbish hypocrisy, fraudulant use of paperwork &amp; animals, the outing of members who&#8217;d refuse to comply to the pressure of committing unethical practices from other breeders, crimes of cruelty against animals on an unimaginable scale, (&amp; i say crimes because they really were/are crimes) inter-breeding on a level that really was quite obvious to any person with even one braincell as being a of huge mistake &amp; detriment to the dogs abilities, not only to perform, yet also to function as any dog should be able too.<br />
The Breeder of today hasn&#8217;t got better at all, if anything they&#8217;ve only got better at hiding they&#8217;re misdeeds from the world outside of the KC. All the practices that were occurring 10, 20, 30, &amp; 40years ago are definitely still happening as i type, &amp; will still be doing so in the decades to come.<br />
My advice to anyone looking for a pedigree dog with all the attributes, grace, nobility &amp; good long health that a pedigree dog should rightfully have &#8211; would be to stay well away from long established clubs such as this one is.<br />
If your able to find pedigree animals from family home breeders, then that&#8217;s where you should be buying from. In my mind at least 80% of KC breeders are only fatcat type money making &#8220;charlatans&#8221;, who know absolutely squat about sustaining any breeds intricate characteristics.<br />
I&#8217;d personally say that when weighing up the two sides, clubs like Dogs Lovers are most likely allowing a much healthier, &amp; less stressed, stronger, happier pedigree to be produced from loving family calm homes.<br />
Remember, dogs have been domesticated for over four thousand years, &amp; our homes have been their natural environment for a very long time!. It&#8217;s where they belong now &amp; flourish best. Not at puppy farms, Crates, kennels, breeding pens &amp; boxes.<br />
Think about it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. !</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently brought a puppy from a member of DLRC.  On visiting the vets he was underweight and became extremely ill, spending 4 days in the vets hospital.  At 10 weeks old, he looks no more than 7 weeks.  The breeder was feeding him Neto&#039;s dog food and only twice a day.  I believe the mother has had many many litters hence the small puppies.  Perhaps Trading Standards should have a look at some of these breeders..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently brought a puppy from a member of DLRC.  On visiting the vets he was underweight and became extremely ill, spending 4 days in the vets hospital.  At 10 weeks old, he looks no more than 7 weeks.  The breeder was feeding him Neto&#8217;s dog food and only twice a day.  I believe the mother has had many many litters hence the small puppies.  Perhaps Trading Standards should have a look at some of these breeders&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have just been reading all your notes, and must say as yet im not a member of DLRC but i do intend to. i have found the KC far too picky and quite frankly not helpful at all. i have pedigree dogs but couldnt register one because her breeder alought they where registered and so where her parents did not register her litter. and on that i was refused... i found this very anoying and unfair. If you have a proper pedigree pooch then you should be able to register it... and i think breed it if you so wish to so long as the health and checks are kepted up to date, in my opinion the KC is more for poeple who wish to show dogs and purly get more money out of it. what about the people with pedigrees who just love thier pets and dont want to show them..AS FOR INBREEDING then they should be fined and banded from even owning any animals its sick!!!!. 
So im sorry (barking up the wrong tree) but i think you out of order and quite frankly dont know what your talking about..
there are people out there that just loves thier pets you know. and i do intent to register mine with DLRC.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have just been reading all your notes, and must say as yet im not a member of DLRC but i do intend to. i have found the KC far too picky and quite frankly not helpful at all. i have pedigree dogs but couldnt register one because her breeder alought they where registered and so where her parents did not register her litter. and on that i was refused&#8230; i found this very anoying and unfair. If you have a proper pedigree pooch then you should be able to register it&#8230; and i think breed it if you so wish to so long as the health and checks are kepted up to date, in my opinion the KC is more for poeple who wish to show dogs and purly get more money out of it. what about the people with pedigrees who just love thier pets and dont want to show them..AS FOR INBREEDING then they should be fined and banded from even owning any animals its sick!!!!.<br />
So im sorry (barking up the wrong tree) but i think you out of order and quite frankly dont know what your talking about..<br />
there are people out there that just loves thier pets you know. and i do intent to register mine with DLRC&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Caplen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Caplen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I have bred several litters of KC reg Cavaliers but was finding it increasingly difficult to find healthy dogs to breed from - I prefer mine to be fit, happy, able to see (no clouded eyes), have healthy hearts, good sized heads, walk enjoyably - that kind of thing, which in humankind we take as a basic human right. 
2. The KC gene pool is now far too narrow for good health, resulting in all sorts of problems (as above - or try any of the national papers for fuller information). Failing that; do remind me why the BBC won&#039;t film Crufts anymore?
3. With regard to not being able to fiddle the KC; as long as you&#039;ve got pedigrees (not necessarily the dogs....), then it is just as possible as with the DLRC. 
4. The only solution to keeping a pedigree and having a healthy dog, is to go wider than the KC and, the DLRC is the only other vaguely reliable alternative. This gives some kind of parental history and a wider gene pool, thus healthier dogs - looks like a no-brainer to me. Of course, if any of you readers just care about what your dog&#039;s worth; you poor, poor things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I have bred several litters of KC reg Cavaliers but was finding it increasingly difficult to find healthy dogs to breed from &#8211; I prefer mine to be fit, happy, able to see (no clouded eyes), have healthy hearts, good sized heads, walk enjoyably &#8211; that kind of thing, which in humankind we take as a basic human right.<br />
2. The KC gene pool is now far too narrow for good health, resulting in all sorts of problems (as above &#8211; or try any of the national papers for fuller information). Failing that; do remind me why the BBC won&#8217;t film Crufts anymore?<br />
3. With regard to not being able to fiddle the KC; as long as you&#8217;ve got pedigrees (not necessarily the dogs&#8230;.), then it is just as possible as with the DLRC.<br />
4. The only solution to keeping a pedigree and having a healthy dog, is to go wider than the KC and, the DLRC is the only other vaguely reliable alternative. This gives some kind of parental history and a wider gene pool, thus healthier dogs &#8211; looks like a no-brainer to me. Of course, if any of you readers just care about what your dog&#8217;s worth; you poor, poor things.</p>
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		<title>By: keeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>keeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am not a breeder but have registered my litters with dlrc an im quite happy with the service, i have kc reg dog and my bitch isnt but my bitch.s parents were but when we come 2 breed are bitch aged 2years the kennel club said she can not be registered because she is too old! my kc dog was bought because his owners payed alot of money for him when they clearly cudnt  afford to a keep or house a saint bernard both my dogs have super pedigree an my now pups have certificates from dlrc to show that there bred 4 pets not show, kc bragg about the ability 2 show bein kc reg when show dogs lives are full of miserry bein dragged pillar to post 4 a piece of coloured ribbon and the ability 2 add money on pups they sell an ownwers 2 stick there nose in the air!! atleast dlrc state clearly the dogs r 4 pets only an they care 4 any dogs to be registered van dont turn u away 4 pethetic reasions like the kennel club. i will continue 2 register my bitch and all there litters with dlrc, most of these puppy farms are kc reg dogs/puppies, fix them problems and get use to the fact ur not the only one&#039;s in the dog regisertion business! i have seen many kc dogs that look like mongerls, kc means nothin 2 me as all i care about is providing people with a breed they love, money is no object an bein kc registered doesnt make u or ur dogs perfect! peole should care about loving there dogs not the papers i they come with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am not a breeder but have registered my litters with dlrc an im quite happy with the service, i have kc reg dog and my bitch isnt but my bitch.s parents were but when we come 2 breed are bitch aged 2years the kennel club said she can not be registered because she is too old! my kc dog was bought because his owners payed alot of money for him when they clearly cudnt  afford to a keep or house a saint bernard both my dogs have super pedigree an my now pups have certificates from dlrc to show that there bred 4 pets not show, kc bragg about the ability 2 show bein kc reg when show dogs lives are full of miserry bein dragged pillar to post 4 a piece of coloured ribbon and the ability 2 add money on pups they sell an ownwers 2 stick there nose in the air!! atleast dlrc state clearly the dogs r 4 pets only an they care 4 any dogs to be registered van dont turn u away 4 pethetic reasions like the kennel club. i will continue 2 register my bitch and all there litters with dlrc, most of these puppy farms are kc reg dogs/puppies, fix them problems and get use to the fact ur not the only one&#8217;s in the dog regisertion business! i have seen many kc dogs that look like mongerls, kc means nothin 2 me as all i care about is providing people with a breed they love, money is no object an bein kc registered doesnt make u or ur dogs perfect! peole should care about loving there dogs not the papers i they come with!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kennel Club has a system where by a breeder can endorse a puppy/litter such that any subsequent offspring cannot be registered with the Kennel Club. A breeder would do this for one of two reasons, either the dog/bitch has serious genetic faults, in which case it should not be registered at all, or because the breeder wishes to limit the availability of good breeding stock to ensure that they limit who can breed KC pedigree dogs. I believe that most endorsements are made for the latter reason, that is, for personal gain. The only option for an owner with an endorsed pedigree is to register with DLRC.
If the Kennel Club wish to be the recognised registration club, they should ban the corrupt endorsement of pedigrees, and embark on a program that would allow DLRC registered dogs to be registered with the KC provided that the pedigree can be validated against KC records. That is, I have a DLRC dog, all of who&#039;s grandparents were KC registered - that dog should be accepted by the Kennel Club for KC registration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kennel Club has a system where by a breeder can endorse a puppy/litter such that any subsequent offspring cannot be registered with the Kennel Club. A breeder would do this for one of two reasons, either the dog/bitch has serious genetic faults, in which case it should not be registered at all, or because the breeder wishes to limit the availability of good breeding stock to ensure that they limit who can breed KC pedigree dogs. I believe that most endorsements are made for the latter reason, that is, for personal gain. The only option for an owner with an endorsed pedigree is to register with DLRC.<br />
If the Kennel Club wish to be the recognised registration club, they should ban the corrupt endorsement of pedigrees, and embark on a program that would allow DLRC registered dogs to be registered with the KC provided that the pedigree can be validated against KC records. That is, I have a DLRC dog, all of who&#8217;s grandparents were KC registered &#8211; that dog should be accepted by the Kennel Club for KC registration</p>
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		<title>By: kerry savory</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerry savory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently purchased a DLRC Shih tzu puppy that is a very very good quality puppy with no problems at all.
My next door also purchased a Shih tzu puppy this week that is KC Reg and its parents had been bred from so much the puppy had all sorts of problems and had to be returned to the breeder who has a house and a garden full of cages that are covered over all day and night so the dogs dont bark.
Each of her cages had a dog and a litter of puppys in .All her dogs and puppys are KC Registered and all of them need the RSPCA to come and save them.
 I used to be all for the KC as my other dog is a KC dog but these dogs are never checked up on and most of them are used as breeding machines to make money.
I am really really pleased that I ignored getting another KC and went for a DLRC dog as she is in 100 times better condition than that poor miserable pup my next door could have ended up with.
KC dont check up on there registered dogs or care on what state of dogs are being used so I now know that a KC dog dosnt mean you are getting a good breed or quality of dog at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently purchased a DLRC Shih tzu puppy that is a very very good quality puppy with no problems at all.<br />
My next door also purchased a Shih tzu puppy this week that is KC Reg and its parents had been bred from so much the puppy had all sorts of problems and had to be returned to the breeder who has a house and a garden full of cages that are covered over all day and night so the dogs dont bark.<br />
Each of her cages had a dog and a litter of puppys in .All her dogs and puppys are KC Registered and all of them need the RSPCA to come and save them.<br />
 I used to be all for the KC as my other dog is a KC dog but these dogs are never checked up on and most of them are used as breeding machines to make money.<br />
I am really really pleased that I ignored getting another KC and went for a DLRC dog as she is in 100 times better condition than that poor miserable pup my next door could have ended up with.<br />
KC dont check up on there registered dogs or care on what state of dogs are being used so I now know that a KC dog dosnt mean you are getting a good breed or quality of dog at all.</p>
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